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Wireless Android Auto not working as advertised following October 2023 navigation update.

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We've spent untold hours by phone, email, in the car, and at the dealership trying to address this issue with our 2021 Palisade Calligraphy. Our car uses the Standard-class Gen5W Navigation platform updated to the October 2023 LX2.USA.S5W_M.V011.005.231215 update. No one was able to help resolve this issue for us, including the dealership.

The website clearly indicates that wireless Android Auto and Apple Carplay are now supported (even had an exclamation '!' point) by the October 2023 update. Other customers are also complaining about this regarding newer models and years. After researching the problem with a supervisor or other associates, the phone tech finally came back on and admitted they have never been able to get the feature to work for anyone and declared it is actually not a working feature, despite the website and Hyundai tutorial videos illustrating the feature. They have no explanation as to why the website still lists the feature?

This is extremely frustrating since there are no explanations, links, or footnotes that disclose the reasons for this problem nor any models or years that may or may not support the features listed in the update. Where do you go when the manufacturer, technical support, and dealerships cannot give you a competent answer?
 
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We've spent untold hours by phone, email, in the car, and at the dealership trying to address this issue with our 2021 Palisade Calligraphy. Our car uses the Standard-class Gen5W Navigation platform updated to the October 2023 LX2.USA.S5W_M.V011.005.231215 update. No one was able to help resolve this issue for us, including the dealership.

The website clearly indicates that wireless Android Auto and Apple Carplay are now supported (even had an exclamation '!' point) by the October 2023 update. Other customers are also complaining about this regarding newer models and years. After researching the problem with a supervisor or other associates, the phone tech finally came back on and admitted they have never been able to get the feature to work for anyone and declared it is actually not a working feature, despite the website and Hyundai tutorial videos illustrating the feature. They have no explanation as to why the website still lists the feature?

This is extremely frustrating since there are no explanations, links, or footnotes that disclose the reasons for this problem nor any models or years that may or may not support the features listed in the update. Where do you go when the manufacturer, technical support, and dealerships cannot give you a competent answer?
It will never work on this car. The October update did enable it, but only on cars that use the new system, and that’s only 1 or 2 model year 2024 cars so far.
 
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Thank you, that's obviously disappointing for those with older models. More disappointing is the fact that the update website description does not clearly identify which models have or don't have this feature. Furthermore, there are no warnings or messages to this effect during the download or installation of the update. Even our dealer's technicians couldn't find this information on the website. Hyundai is forcing users to unnecessarily waste time searching for non-existent solutions to non-working features, which potentially frustrates and alienates hundreds of users.

Additionally, we'd love to have an explanation as to why our models do not have the capability. Is there a hardware limitation or a software issue that might be addressed down the road? To our knowledge, and to that of our dealer, Hyundai has never clearly stated the nature of the limitation or whether it might be addressed later. Our navigation head unit has Bluetooth which connects to our phones wirelessly for calling and audio, so suggests they might have the ability to connect wirelessly with Android Auto or Apply Carplay? In fact, there are third-party apps that claim they can mirror your phone screen to the vehicle screen through Bluetooth. Likewise, third-party developers have devices that plug into the USB port and provide wireless Android Auto/Apple Carplay capability. So, shouldn't Hyundai be able to clearly state whether it is a hardware limitation or not for these models and recommend an alternative adapter if it's hardware related? Ideally, of course, we'd hope for a software issue that could be addressed with a future update.
 
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@nikhilarni Hyundai confirmed that this will be fixed in their Spring update (2024) and that the fall update (2023) had few issues for some models.
 
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@nikhilarni Hyundai confirmed that this will be fixed in their Spring update (2024) and that the fall update (2023) had few issues for some models.
Not available on my 24 Palisade Calligraphy....was told by my dealer that there is an issue between Hyundai and Apple as to who owns?....controls?....the maps
 
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Not available on my 24 Palisade Calligraphy....was told by my dealer that there is an issue between Hyundai and Apple as to who owns?....controls?....the maps
I have a brand new 2024 Palisade SEL with the Premium package. Last night I updated the software to the latest version. I cannot get the wireless Android Auto to work. I'm following the instructions provided with the update that clearly state that the update allows for the wireless connection, but no luck. I'd prefer to not have my phone tethered to the USB port. If anyone has a 2024 Palisade (any model) and has gotten the wireless Android Auto to work, PLEASE share in detail how you did it.
 
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I have a brand new 2024 Palisade SEL with the Premium package. Last night I updated the software to the latest version. I cannot get the wireless Android Auto to work. I'm following the instructions provided with the update that clearly state that the update allows for the wireless connection, but no luck. I'd prefer to not have my phone tethered to the USB port. If anyone has a 2024 Palisade (any model) and has gotten the wireless Android Auto to work, PLEASE share in detail how you did it.
That is not possible to do. The update from October 2023 that you downloaded is referring to the newer infotainment system that is available on some 2024 cars. I mentioned that further up in this thread.
 

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I bought my Caligraphy in May and have been through the same frustrations as those above. That's what you get for buying the premium model guess! My salesman and I have been working on this issue since May. He now tells me that there will be an update fix in July. Nothing yet, but hopefully it will happen by Christmas!
 

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Buy an inexpensive adaptor to get buy until or if it ever becomes available. No 24 or 23 Palis have it. I have mine tucked up and to the side. Not a big deal.
 

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There is not and has never been wireless carplay for '23 and '24 Palisades. You need an adapter to get full wireless autoplay. I tuck mine out-of-the-way. No biggie. Many folks believe Bluetooth connectivity is wireless carplay. It is not. It is nice and is all that I need most times as WAZE drives me nuts on over informing me on local streets. Bluetooth allows you to receive and make phone calls. It displays your texts with limited pre-written replies. You can also play your music. You cannot use othe phone apps like WAZE and your text replys cannot be dictated. So maybe some of the folks hyper-ventilating over carplay and can get by just fine with Bluetooth connectivity.
 
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New member here. Just picked up my 2025 AWD Calligraphy. I can’t speak to the experiences of prior model years, but there is certainly no wireless Apple CarPlay (or Android Auto) on this car. That was a minor disappointment for me, as my other cars have had it, and my daughter’s 2022 Kona has it! But it didn’t keep me from buying the car. (Same with power folding mirrors; seriously Hyundai?)

In my research about some occasional connectivity problems in my daughter’s car during a cross country road trip together this summer—the Kona really is a great little car—I learned that there have been repeated and numerous problems with wireless and wired ACP in several Hyundai models. We had occasionally inexplicable losses of connection with both phones wired and wireless. When I discovered that the Palisade still did not have wireless ACP, I shrugged and thought “maybe on their primo car, Hyundai didn’t want to hear their customers complaining about something they couldn’t get to work reliably.” I don’t know. I can’t believe it has anything to do with maps/software licensing, since they offer wired ACP without legal issues and wireless in some cars. And my otherwise-quite-good-dealer/service department could only acknowledge the known reliability problems in several models. In other cars I have owned and/or rented, I will say that wireless ACP generally works well, but never as completely reliably as wired ACP.

I will give props to Hyundai for the native infotainment system. Although the Palisade doesn’t have the latest HW/SW combo that the 2024 Santa Fe does—almost went that route but preferred the extra room for car camping—the Palisade is still very good. Navigation is excellent, and it integrates extremely well with my iPhone over Bluetooth. Much better in that regard than my Audi e-tron GT (likewise, the Palisade HUD puts the Audi to shame). And while the Audi has good wireless ACP, if I really want full ACP in the Palisade, I keep a short coiled USB-A to C cord in my console (again, seriously Hyundai, USB-A?). There are three reasons I like to run ACP:
  1. Apple Watch haptic notifications during navigation (but the Palisade HUD has me thinking I just may not care as much about that);
  2. Apple messages interactivity with on screen notifications, though I can still hear and respond to Messages through Siri without connecting ACP;
  3. Being able to run Waze in the background or foreground. In the background, I still get Waze’s superior police, traffic, and road hazard alerts, and can quickly switch to it if I need to. And in the foreground as primary navigation, Waze is still the best at finding the shortest route, even if only by 15 seconds. 😉
Sorry for being so long winded on my first post. But this is, to me, a very interesting issue.
 
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New member here. Just picked up my 2025 AWD Calligraphy. I can’t speak to the experiences of prior model years, but there is certainly no wireless Apple CarPlay (or Android Auto) on this car. That was a minor disappointment for me, as my other cars have had it, and my daughter’s 2022 Kona has it! But it didn’t keep me from buying the car. (Same with power folding mirrors; seriously Hyundai?)

In my research about some occasional connectivity problems in my daughter’s car during a cross country road trip together this summer—the Kona really is a great little car—I learned that there have been repeated and numerous problems with wireless and wired ACP in several Hyundai models. We had occasionally inexplicable losses of connection with both phones wired and wireless. When I discovered that the Palisade still did not have wireless ACP, I shrugged and thought “maybe on their primo car, Hyundai didn’t want to hear their customers complaining about something they couldn’t get to work reliably.” I don’t know. I can’t believe it has anything to do with maps/software licensing, since they offer wired ACP without legal issues and wireless in some cars. And my otherwise-quite-good-dealer/service department could only acknowledge the known reliability problems in several models. In other cars I have owned and/or rented, I will say that wireless ACP generally works well, but never as completely reliably as wired ACP.

I will give props to Hyundai for the native infotainment system. Although the Palisade doesn’t have the latest HW/SW combo that the 2024 Santa Fe does—almost went that route but preferred the extra room for car camping—the Palisade is still very good. Navigation is excellent, and it integrates extremely well with my iPhone over Bluetooth. Much better in that regard than my Audi e-tron GT (likewise, the Palisade HUD puts the Audi to shame). And while the Audi has good wireless ACP, if I really want full ACP in the Palisade, I keep a short coiled USB-A to C cord in my console (again, seriously Hyundai, USB-A?). There are three reasons I like to run ACP:
  1. Apple Watch haptic notifications during navigation (but the Palisade HUD has me thinking I just may not care as much about that);
  2. Apple messages interactivity with on screen notifications, though I can still hear and respond to Messages through Siri without connecting ACP;
  3. Being able to run Waze in the background or foreground. In the background, I still get Waze’s superior police, traffic, and road hazard alerts, and can quickly switch to it if I need to. And in the foreground as primary navigation, Waze is still the best at finding the shortest route, even if only by 15 seconds. 😉
Sorry for being so long winded on my first post. But this is, to me, a very interesting issue.
Don’t forget to update your infotainment system and maps at https://update.hyundai.com. It’s free. Don’t download the display audio one: that’s for cars without nav.
 
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Thanks for the tip. My car began performing an OTA update as I pulled into my garage when I brought it home. 23 files were downloaded and installed. I will check that link and see if it shows a latest version and compare it to what’s in the car.

UPDATE: turns out my car was already current. Peace of mind to know.
 
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